"EXCEL" Meeting Minutes
November 21, 2000

Present:
Arnold Golodetz, M.D., Marie Kirn, Tim Thompson, M.D., Ginny Fry, Madeleine Mongan and Stephanie Lane

Hospital CEO Letter:
There has been no response to the letter sent to all of the hospital CEOs. Tim spoke with Paul Bengston, CEO of Northeastern Vermont Regional Hospital, who said that he had gotten the letter and is using it to build/push forward initiatives

Regional Reports:

St. Johnsbury:
Tim reported that he is building a palliative care team with Brad Armstrong and Jan Morse, director of nursing at NVRH. The palliative care program should be up in January. Discussion ensued on collaboration between palliative care programs (at the hospital) and hospice.

Central Vermont:
The Palliative care program is doing very well and has 75 patients; 30 of those patients are on hospice.

Other Business:

 

 

Financial and Administrative Obstacles to End-of-Life Care Task Force
There was a discussion of the Medicare Prospective Payment System, which was put in place effective October 1, 2000. A suggestion was made to create an ExCEL task force on financing for end-of-life care to review all options for financing and the effect of reimbursement changes such as PPS on palliative care, hospice and home health services. Dr. Thompson asked for leadership from Ginny and Diana on finances and obstacles to providing good palliative care, because Central Vermont has effectively addressed this issue. Ginny, Diana, & Tim will be on this task force. Stephanie will send a message to the Listserve asking for other volunteers for the Task Force. Tim will ask Paul Bergston if he would be on Task Force.

Language
Dr. Golodetz will lead an effort to get agreement on terms and language for palliative care and end-of-life care. He would like to address advanced chronic illness. Dr. Golodetz will draft a proposal on this issue and send it to the list serve.

Combined Conference:
Hospice/ExCEL- June 2001 - Lake Morey
Panels: for the breakout sessions at June meeting on Thursday afternoon will include:

  • Education-physician, hospice
  • Education-payors
  • Medicaid, Medicare issues
  • Finances

Tim Quill, M.D., will speak Thursday morning on non-abandonment. Joan Madison is trying to invite him also to speak at Grand Rounds at FAHC on Friday.

Dr. Thompson asked about funding for the hospice/ExCEL conference next summer. Dr. Thompson will call Dr. Niemira about contacting drug companies. We also need to broaden the list of invitees for June Meeting. It was suggested to invite nursing home directors to the conference.

Grand Rounds at FAHC
Ginny did Grand Rounds at FAHC with Matthew Gutierrez, Chief Medical Resident on November 18th. The topic was "Sharing Bad News" and there was a full house, and lots of questions about things that have gone badly for patients: too many words; too much lingo; not listening. Madeleine will investigate whether there is a way we could put this information on the ExCEL Listserve since it was broadcast on Telemedicine. She will call Jessica Comai or John Brumstead to see if this was taped or if there is a transcript.

Tim will contact Dr. Brumstead to see if FAHC will finance statewide distribution of Zail's flip book on sympton management.

CEO Letter
Dr. Golodetz talked about identifying and contacting local people to follow up on the CEO letter. They will be more likely to respond to local initiatives. We should contact people who are part of a local palliative care effort to ask them to approach their CEO, for example Judith Kinley at Brattleboro; and Barbara Fane and Barbara Raskin, M.D. in Bennington. Newport, St. Johnsbury and Central Vermont are all set. All regional leaders should be invited to the June meeting. This issue should be added to the agenda for the next ExCEL meeting. ExCEL members should review the ExCEL member list on the web site www.vtmd.org to help identify who should be added or dropped from the list to ensure that we have all regions represented.

Nursing Home Meeting
Dr. Thompson spoke with nursing home directors, social workers, nurses on October 3rd at Killington. There is a need for a protocol in nursing homes on standing orders for pain and symptom management and also a protocol on how nursing home patients enter into End-of-Life mode. Next steps: Should we identify a successful model in one or two sites or should we focus on creating a centralized model. We need to develop a program or document to help families choose aggressive treatment or home care (step back).

Resources:
Dr. Golodetz noted we need competent person to help build the regional end-of life care network $50,000 minimum (salary for 3 years would be $150,000). We need to develop a proposal to use to contact the Freeman Foundation. Dr. Reardon may be helpful. Dr. Golodetz will contact her. Dr. Hartley Neal may be another resource as he has a connection with Mr. Freeman . Dr. Thompson will contact Dr. Neal.

Before next meeting:
Everyone should look at ExCel member list on the web and contact Stephanie or Madeleine about adding or deleting members.

VPQHC:
Madeleine will talk to Helen Riehle or Dr. Jordan to see whom we should talk to about the quality page this year. Madeleine will invite Julie Tonks from VAHHS to next ExCEL meeting conference call.

Next meetings:
All conference calls will use the same dial up number (800-852-7711) and conference code (37898)

All meetings at the VMS will be held in the carriage house conference room

  • Thursday January 18, 2001 7:30a.m. - 9:30a.m. Conference Call
  • Thursday February 22, 2001 7:30a.m. - 9:30a.m. Conference Call
  • Tuesday March 27, 2001 2:00p.m. - 4:00p.m. At VMS

 

 

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